bluedraggy: This is my Magnum Opus. The best I can do coloring at mu current skill level. I spent more time on this than it has any right to suck up out of my life. Ive got leather texture and scale skin textures in there goddammit! The only thing missing is the Batman Forever version (which I'll put up on realbboy's discord and probably everywhere else on earth.) Okay - I can color decently when given enough time and effort. And curves to inspire me.
Kazerad drew it (mostly - maybe I enhanced it just a tad. :) I colored. Don't know what the context was, but Evil Quill-Weave is angry. Now is not a good time to be Faceless Mook.
Radian: Man, I don't want to look like asshole but it's not really good. Don't use black for shadows and white for lit parts. You are not advanced painter so use simpler tools, use blending modes.
Layer 1(2,3) - line and flat colors
Layer 2 - multiply, fill it all, use mask, erase lit parts, use softer brush, play with layer color with HSV curves
Layer 3 - multiply, paint shadows in parts like tits, armpits, fingers.
Or better check Makkon guide, he write and show it better (more complicated though).
Now go and make new Magnum Opus that will be much better than this.
bluedraggy: Surely you jest Sashimi! Not only did he write helpful and clearly knowledgeable criticism, but he posted what it could have looked like as well! I hate to think how long that took him to do - all for my benefit! Kind? I want to kiss his toes! (well, metaphorically speaking.) If you don't think I'm going to take his suggestions to heart, you're wrong. Not this one - it's over and done with for me. But damn that's a good revision! I said it was the best I could do at the time. Already I bet I could do better. I'm sure as hell not going to berate the guy who helped me do that!
Sashimi: @bluedraggy: Well I don't mind that someone is willing to offer constructive criticism, and it's nice to offer helpful solutions, but for someone to just flat out say your work is not good, that doesn't sit well with me. It could have been worded differently.
Radian: Well, "not really good" doesn't mean "it sucks and you suck too". It's middle, neutral point between "bad" and "good". It's not bad and not wrong, it looks like work made by beginner who aren't know much (we all was here). Honestly I said so because of comments like "Excellent" and "Impressive".
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If it's "The best I can do coloring at mu current skill level" then it's time to change something. Like a way how you work, way how you learn and what you think. Maybe it's time to learn your fundamentals.
The fact you are only coloring drawings dome by other people means you are skipping most important part. Take a pencil and start drawing. The better you becomes at drawing - the better you will understand the form - the faster and easier will be shading and coloring.
Other problem is what you are shading highly stylized drawings. I'd recommend draw\learn from photos or much better from live. Start with simple things.
This overpaint was very fast and I spent about half of the time cleaning and selecting different parts. (also I like to overpaint when it's about render, very relaxing)
@Sashimi: do you want to talk about it? ;) Got a critique - skip not helpful parts, analyze and use helpful parts. As I said it was more like "-oh mate, it's so good" "-no it isn't, you can do better if you...". Yeah, it could be worded better (I need better english skillz).
Damn, I need to learn how to not make walls of text. But art is kinda complex thing, it's hard to simplify.
realbboy: It might just be me but I think the perfectly rowed scales despite the curvature of Quill's body looks kinda weird. I'm not really sure if this could be easily fixed though.
Maybe angle the scaled based on where they are on the body?
bluedraggy: Naw, I'm with you realbboy. I actually did rotate the ones on her left arm at roughly shoulder level, but realized that still doesn't help since I'd have to rotate over every bend. If I go that route again, I'd use some hexagonal and staggered scales so they didn't form straight lines anyway. But I probably won't even try that again. Leather texture worked pretty well though.
Sashimi: @Radian: (Well, "not really good" doesn't mean "it sucks and you suck too".) See, when I first read the "not really good" part, I took it as "not good" and it struck me as basically saying the effort sucked. When I made the "excellent" remark, I wanted to show support for someone who is far better at this than I, but it's not in comparison to something like the Mona Lisa. As they say, art is subjective, and I think it was a good job. I'm glad people are willing to offer assistance and I definitely think we can offer suggestions without being disparaging of ones work. I guess If your earlier response was worded similar to below, I wouldn't have said anything.
Radian: Hey, I have some pointers that might help improve your technique if you're interested. Don't use black for shadows and white for lit parts. Since you are a novice painter, use simpler tools, use blending modes.
Layer 1(2,3) - line and flat colors
Layer 2 - multiply, fill it all, use mask, erase lit parts, use softer brush, play with layer color with HSV curves
Layer 3 - multiply, paint shadows in parts like tits, armpits, fingers.
Or better check Makkon guide, he write and show it better (more complicated though).
Now go and make new Magnum Opus that I think will be more to your liking.
Just a bit more diplomatic in my opinion. Sorry, I didn't mean for my comment to blow things up. I usually try to avoid stirring things up, but it doesn't always work out so well.
Radian: @Sashimi: I just wanted him to stop think "oh, it's good, I should continue this way" and start to think "I should find a better way to work and practice".
¯\_(ツ)_/¯
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Kazerad drew it (mostly - maybe I enhanced it just a tad. :) I colored. Don't know what the context was, but Evil Quill-Weave is angry. Now is not a good time to be Faceless Mook.
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Layer 1(2,3) - line and flat colors
Layer 2 - multiply, fill it all, use mask, erase lit parts, use softer brush, play with layer color with HSV curves
Layer 3 - multiply, paint shadows in parts like tits, armpits, fingers.
Or better check Makkon guide, he write and show it better (more complicated though).
Now go and make new Magnum Opus that will be much better than this.
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If it's "The best I can do coloring at mu current skill level" then it's time to change something. Like a way how you work, way how you learn and what you think. Maybe it's time to learn your fundamentals.
The fact you are only coloring drawings dome by other people means you are skipping most important part. Take a pencil and start drawing. The better you becomes at drawing - the better you will understand the form - the faster and easier will be shading and coloring.
Other problem is what you are shading highly stylized drawings. I'd recommend draw\learn from photos or much better from live. Start with simple things.
This overpaint was very fast and I spent about half of the time cleaning and selecting different parts. (also I like to overpaint when it's about render, very relaxing)
@Sashimi: do you want to talk about it? ;) Got a critique - skip not helpful parts, analyze and use helpful parts. As I said it was more like "-oh mate, it's so good" "-no it isn't, you can do better if you...". Yeah, it could be worded better (I need better english skillz).
Damn, I need to learn how to not make walls of text. But art is kinda complex thing, it's hard to simplify.
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Maybe angle the scaled based on where they are on the body?
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Radian: Hey, I have some pointers that might help improve your technique if you're interested. Don't use black for shadows and white for lit parts. Since you are a novice painter, use simpler tools, use blending modes.
Layer 1(2,3) - line and flat colors
Layer 2 - multiply, fill it all, use mask, erase lit parts, use softer brush, play with layer color with HSV curves
Layer 3 - multiply, paint shadows in parts like tits, armpits, fingers.
Or better check Makkon guide, he write and show it better (more complicated though).
Now go and make new Magnum Opus that I think will be more to your liking.
Just a bit more diplomatic in my opinion. Sorry, I didn't mean for my comment to blow things up. I usually try to avoid stirring things up, but it doesn't always work out so well.
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