Gren: I lolled with the "High elves" joke XD
Some things I'd like to point out about this:
-The "human" tag seems to me a little redundant.
-The test didn't ask me about "Stephane" when I chose "Breton"
-There was a little mistake in the part about people walking on animal feet. I think the text said "on their or on their toes", I think it was missing the word "feet" or "plant" there.
AMKitsune: @Gren: Thank you for pointing these things out. Seriously, I've never been able to get many people to test these sorts of things and report back their findings. Chances are there are still more bugs and things missing but at least you're little list is no longer amongst them.
As soon as I can get hold of MikeyTheFox, I'll ask him to replace the current one with my updated one (Hopefully some time tomorrow).
When The new version is uploaded, you'll be happy to know that:
The human tag should no longer show up in the final tag list.
Stephane wasn't even in the list of tags. I'd completely forgotten him. Needless to say he's in there now complete with a little picture.
The typo in the "Digitigrade" tag has been fixed.
I'm probably going to ask to become an admin on here simply so I can update this file myself without having to pester others to do it for me.
AMKitsune: @CaptainLackwit: Thank you very much :D. I'm hoping to keep updating it as new tags are created and whenever problems or bugs are brought to light.
Ja_Jarsha_Rovandi: Later Ima flip a coin for each question and make an art that contains all the elements that flip yes (except that 3d animation one, no can do)
Kazerad: Hmm, regarding Flash uploads on the fanart page, I don't know. They don't have a thumbnail or anything; maybe it'd be better to go back to the standard "post an image and a link" used for fanfiction and stuff?
AMKitsune: @Kazerad: While I'm by no means an expert in booru managament (in fact, I know next to nothing about it), I've seen that the shimmie2 booru (that this one is based on) has flash files on it and they all appear to have the same, assumedly default thumbnails (http://shimmie.shishnet.org/v2/post/list/flash/1) (Note that, for me at least, the linked page does not render properly for me in firefox but works fine in chrome). So if they can do it, it should also be possible here to, right? I haven't been able to find much in the way of documentation for how to run and manage these boorus (and the page that lists all the booru extensions on shimmie2, while listing the 'handle flash' plugin, doesn't appear to have any documentation for it. http://shimmie.shishnet.org/v2/ext_doc). There may be a simple option to turn these thumbnails on, it might be more complicated than that or there may be something slightly wrong with installation of it that only effects flash thumbnails.
Either way, if it helps, I could always try to contact the owner of shishnet and ask them about this.
From a 'content management perspective', It would be a much cleaner setup if you were able to host any and all files submitted on the booru itself instead of relying of off-site hosting. But of course, that's just me imposing my file management ideals. As it's your booru, the decision is ultimately yours.
Also, while it feels a bit wrong to outright ask for this, if you decide to keep SWF functionality (and this tagger flash ends up staying here), would you mind making me an admin so I could personally update the file whenever needed? If not, that's fine. I always have Mikey available on steam for the occasional file change. It would just be quicker and less work for him.
TemporaryFace: I just took the time to see what questions it provides, and I'm delighted to see so many tags that I recognize and even invented! It would perhaps add to the utility, however, if you could see what tags were added, or would be added, as you answer the questions individually, instead of listing them all at the end.
AMKitsune: @TemporaryFace: Unfortunately, while that was something I considered to begin with, there isn't really anywhere that I could find that an 'ongoing tag list' would fit well. Plus, with recent developments in how it's coded, the actual list of presented tags is actually generated after the quiz is over (removing the redundant 'human' tag if present, adding additional tags if specific pairs are found and alphabeticly reordering all of them).
TemporaryFace: @AMKitsune: Instead of logging a list of tags that updates as you go, perhaps it could display temporary blurbs telling you what tags will ultimately be added to that list according to the individual answers you select?
So, for example, I answer "Am I in the picture?" with yes, and a string saying "Katia_Managan" fades in briefly before fading out again?
AMKitsune: @TemporaryFace: At this stage, how the program works is pretty much set in stone as it uses quite a complicated (and by that I mean poorly organised) method for managing all the tags. Sure, I could make the actual tags appear on screen, but they would have to serve a practical purpose besides looking nice. I've tried to keep things (for the user) as non-technical and simple as possible. I've added in little bits of flavour text here and there but hopefully nothing that'll make a user think "What's this? do I need to click this? What does this mean?" One of the biggest problems with trying to develop something like this is that it's so easy to get used to your own design choices that you can forget that other people don't necessarily know how everything works or what it's all meant to do.
Although looking back at it, having the tags in some way displayed along with the question could be useful for actively teaching users about tags that they may not have known about before. I might be able to add something along those lines in if I can find a good place for it that wouldn't cause any confusion or clutter the UI.
AMKitsune: @Man_Of_Mer: When I started making that, I had no idea how much work it would actually take to get the program to have a believable quantity and variety of responses. The basic framework's there, but damn, if I learnt one thing from that, it's that trying to parse conversational English is hard. I'm probably not going to do any further work to it as I'm never going to be able to give it enough responses that I'd be happy with it. At this point, it's more of a learning experience than anything else.
TemporaryFace: @AMKitsune: I just noticed the 'show credits' button. Would it be possible to add a similar button below the yes/no options that similarly replaces Katia's speech bubble with the tag(s) implied by 'yes?'
Kazerad: Whoops, sorry, been busy with stuff for the next few updates. But AMK, I went ahead and made you an admin so you can update this automatically.
AMKitsune: @TemporaryFace: Hmm, while not exactly as you've suggested it, I think I've got something that does a similar job. I've also added the 'flashy' tag. Because if my pestering Kazerad to get this booru accepting flash files to accommodate this very program happened to result in the creation of a new tag, I'd be a bit silly not to include it. Update coming soon.
AMKitsune: @Kazerad: Ok, I've changed the program to suggest 'flash' instead of 'flashy'. Also, going on what I remember of our previous conversation, I've added a Daedric fun tip linking back to this page. I've tried to keep it as in keeping with the theme of the other tips as possible. Although, as the only tip that has a hyperlink in it, it does stand out a little. Hopefully it meets your standards.
notabigthreat: Oh hey, just noticed this:
Start the tutorial → blah blah → enable the quick mode → answer all these questions → restart → blah blah again.
The tutorial will still be in the quick mode, but the button will then read "Enable Quick-Mode".
When pressed, it will disable the quick mode, but won't change its caption. After that, it will work according to the button's text.
AMKitsune: @notabigthreat: Many thanks for the feedback. The typo's been fixed (It never even occurred to me that dissable was wrong. That's my spelling for ya). I also 'fixed' the quickmode button problem. Upon restarting, it resets the program to 'regular mode' (it is a combination of restart and reset after all). Still, at least the buttons text should be accurate at all times now (with proper spelling to!).
Also, to begin with, I thought your little slogan at the end there was a list of typo's. I was looking through them trying to find where they were in the program until I though "what does edification even mean?". A good indication that I didn't even include it XD.
notabigthreat: Thanks to your post, I realized it's not "education" misspelled. See? The original slogan was misunderstood as well.
Also, how sure are you with these 137 tags? I got 132 ones with all answers positive and one author.
AMKitsune: @notabigthreat: It should be a pretty accurate count. The program actually counts how many tags it has before telling you. If I were to add more or remove some, the number would automatically adjust to compensate. Also, I seem to remember that some questions won't show up unless you answer 'no' in some cases. So try as you might, I don't think that you'll ever be able to get every tag in one result.
AMKitsune: @furnut: You're very welcome. We do have some pretty obscure tags so it's perfectly understandable to not quite 'get' them all (I'm still discovering new ones all the time!).
AMKitsune: @freynk03: I've had an html version of it in the pipeline for months now. I've just been waiting for Kaz to give the questions in it a read over. I should prompt him to do that at some point...
_Noxygen_: I downloaded this and opened (not knowing what it was) the file. thought it was a bit, until until it spitted a list of pre made tags... I'm going to use the shit out of this, as I only use three tags at most because I hate tagging lol. thank you
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Some things I'd like to point out about this:
-The "human" tag seems to me a little redundant.
-The test didn't ask me about "Stephane" when I chose "Breton"
-There was a little mistake in the part about people walking on animal feet. I think the text said "on their or on their toes", I think it was missing the word "feet" or "plant" there.
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As soon as I can get hold of MikeyTheFox, I'll ask him to replace the current one with my updated one (Hopefully some time tomorrow).
When The new version is uploaded, you'll be happy to know that:
The human tag should no longer show up in the final tag list.
Stephane wasn't even in the list of tags. I'd completely forgotten him. Needless to say he's in there now complete with a little picture.
The typo in the "Digitigrade" tag has been fixed.
I'm probably going to ask to become an admin on here simply so I can update this file myself without having to pester others to do it for me.
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And thank YOU for all the hard work you've put into this.
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Either way, if it helps, I could always try to contact the owner of shishnet and ask them about this.
From a 'content management perspective', It would be a much cleaner setup if you were able to host any and all files submitted on the booru itself instead of relying of off-site hosting. But of course, that's just me imposing my file management ideals. As it's your booru, the decision is ultimately yours.
Also, while it feels a bit wrong to outright ask for this, if you decide to keep SWF functionality (and this tagger flash ends up staying here), would you mind making me an admin so I could personally update the file whenever needed? If not, that's fine. I always have Mikey available on steam for the occasional file change. It would just be quicker and less work for him.
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Also, very useful and a cool way of co-opting the available formats. 9/10, loses a mark for not having pleasing background music ;)
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So, for example, I answer "Am I in the picture?" with yes, and a string saying "Katia_Managan" fades in briefly before fading out again?
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Although looking back at it, having the tags in some way displayed along with the question could be useful for actively teaching users about tags that they may not have known about before. I might be able to add something along those lines in if I can find a good place for it that wouldn't cause any confusion or clutter the UI.
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(Hopefully MyUsernamesMud doesn't mind me using his music here)
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...I might leave that running in the background for a bit, actually, it is rather soothing.
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9.9 points.
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Start the tutorial → blah blah → enable the quick mode → answer all these questions → restart → blah blah again.
The tutorial will still be in the quick mode, but the button will then read "Enable Quick-Mode".
When pressed, it will disable the quick mode, but won't change its caption. After that, it will work according to the button's text.
And there's a typo: "Dissable Quick-Mode".
Carefulness. Reason. Politeness. Curiosity. Edification. Perfection. TYPOWACH.
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Also, to begin with, I thought your little slogan at the end there was a list of typo's. I was looking through them trying to find where they were in the program until I though "what does edification even mean?". A good indication that I didn't even include it XD.
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Also, how sure are you with these 137 tags? I got 132 ones with all answers positive and one author.
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