Man_Of_Mer: IS THIS THE FACE OF OUR LORD AND SAVIOR? Well, more like cruel creator, but still!

VashTheStampede: He did make this comic for us and not ask much.

Bob: HARK! Thine creator has appeared before us humble lowly servants!

What is thy will almighty kaz?

(It better not be to make another of those fancy margaritas again, just making them questions my faith)

SirArthurIV: Kaz is a handsome guy. I think I might have a crush.

RoninSmall: I decided to correct the mistakes of the old sketch. I used a sheet larger than that to see them. I will be glad to criticism, as the last time

PS: do not ask what a plot on the sketch, I do not know.

unknown_victor: The head seems to small but everything else looks fine.

Geravind: Голову чуть увеличь и на место прицепи (выше, левее -- всегда сквозь любые преграды сверяй точку крепления головы к позвоночнику).
Левая кисть мелкая, талия излишне удлиннена (синдром змеи), ляхи каплю толстые, но с такой длиной торса это никто не заметил.
Возле левого бедра намёк на хвост нарисуй шо ле.

RoninSmall: @Geravind: вот тебя я и ждал!

Агась-агась, значта я ничего не упустил что сам увидел. Что касается головы-я тупо представить не могу как она там идет и крепиться, хотя это не мешает мне этот момент лепить. Вот так вот вышло. В любом случае придется посидеть часик другой пообрисовывать
А слегка толстоватые ляхи я люблю, это я уже нарочно :D
Ой, а я хвост забыл

Стыдно как-то скетчи заливать, жалко кроме набора карандашей и ластика ничего круче нет в наличии. Я к чему: все безнадежно и мне стоит бросить затею? Не, ну если что, то зачем мне конкретно недоделками гадюшить? Я жеж в это полез только потому, что наброском удобно сделать будущий эскиз лепной фигуры, а мне приходиться все на ходу додумывать, потому что я тупо нарисовать не способен

Radian: Эта голова оказывает разрушительное воздействие на все остальное тело ._. Выше правильно сказали, от себя добавлю что мускулатуру плеча\руки неправильно изобразил и грудная клетка "выпуклая" с левой (от нас) стороны.
П.С. Хорошие, годные ляхи :Р

Бросать не стоит. Я не знаю как долго и усердно ты этим занимаешься, но для хорошего прогресса нужно время. А для эскизов советую набыбать пачку фоток с няшными голыми азиаточками и рисовать с них. Я не уверен но попробуй загуглить "Hyper Angle", у меня так архив назывался. Внутри 300 фоточек в разных позах и с разных ракурсов.

Geravind: @RoninSmall: "вот тебя я и ждал!" Кхаджит не виноват! Кхаджит пришёл -- так и было.
Бросать не получится -- ч-з n времени придёт твоя совесть и, шатая тебе мозг, будет кричать "сволочь, уже полгода прошло! рисуй ещё что-нибудь годное -- ты самый ленивый юзер этого ресурса... вон, даже криволапый Гера мышкой в редакторе водит". Как-то так.
Заметил одну неизменную особенность: качество арта напрямую зависит от затраченного времени/усилий/скила (но эти ползунки у каждого свои). Когда первый раз кажется "ой, ну всё, уже надоело это пилить, пора выкладывать", на самом деле лучше отложить, отдохнуть, потом оценить ещё раз, нужное допилить.

Никогда бы не подумал, что девушка так сильно нужна для правильного рисования артов... "Девушка для артов", Карл!

RoninSmall: @Radian: никогда бы не подумал что азиатки так полезны творчеству. Хех, я на этот случай специально купил у какого-то гайза фигурку тни, которую успешно потерял. Кажется, это была Каллидус Ассасин

@Geravind: девушка для артов? Лично у меня есть инженер для черчения, который мне за пластиковые фигурки ворует методички по черчению

damrok4321: I would play :P

notabigthreat: ASOTIL should also replace the power's exhaustion, so that's a pseudo Coldarra Drake. Might not hypothetically become a common choice in deck building, though the combos possible are powerful. Gharug is insane value with enough luck, and very probably overpowered. At least that's one more occasion to burn your Reno. The other two cards, especially Sigrid, seem hard to rate reliably. I believe them to be strong.

Vidiotdragon: Nerd Alert: I have to agree that ASTOIL doesn't work becuase inspire requires you to use the ability power... so if its already fire blast, it becomes fire blast again? I kind of feel like he should do something close to Sap since you know.. Arrest.

As for Gro-Upp, I think he should have immunity to hero powers/targeted spells and maybe a "draw a luck card" or something like that. I'm not sure where the weapon fits in. Sigrid should probably read "4 or less Attack" as that's what cards of similar fashion say.

Think like a Witchhunter costs a bit too much considering the closest card to it is only 3 for 2 cards.

Okay I'm done! :P

notabigthreat: 1) It becomes a fresh Fireblast.
2) Right, Gharug isn't directly derived from the comic. Though maybe it's something with throwing swords through walls?
3) Health, it's much easier to synergize with, especially for mages. An instant-damage-dealing card (abundant) plus Sigrid make a great one turn combo.
4) Think... really should not cost below 5. Compare it to Nourish: three card draw with an additional advantage. That is, an information gain.

Tahrey: Yeah, I was wondering about the "destroy weapon" bit. Does any part of the game rely on modfiable chance rolls or the like?

Asotil could be one of those cards that is either a great help (if you have an attack that is inferior to fireblast and/or you need a recharge - though actually the latter would be a non-canon thing), or no use at all (if you already have that or a better attack, and are fully charged).

Like, you might not deliberately add him to an opening hand, but there's nothing to say he wouldn't be part of the random-draw pile, and then appear either just as you need him (eg after your opponent has done something to nerf your main attack), or exactly when he's not needed (just as you've built up to maximum asskicking strength independently of him) and ends up just sticking around for ages until you can dump the card with little/no cost.

Streetwind: @notabigthreat -

The value of Nourish as a 3 card-draw for 5 mana does not simply come from placing three cards into your hand. For starters, there is a difference between putting cards into your hand, and actually drawing them from your deck. Both give you cards to play, but only the act of drawing is considered acceleration (putting your key combo into your hand faster). Additionally, Nourish can also be played as a ramp, and the rule of the thumb is that combining multiple cards into a single card makes their effects worth more.

The effect on Think Like A Witchhunter is interesting though. It can give you your opponent's key cards, but it can also give you dead weight. Mind Vision generally works because you cast it on turn 1, right after the mulligan, where your opponent fished for good cards. A 5-mana cardsteal (not draw) meanwhile is slow as molasses. Thoughsteal can be played when the priest would usually pass, in turn 2 or 3, but by turn 5 the endgame is approaching and you need to be able to answer your opponent reliably unless you want to surrender the board. Perhaps if you have Lightbomb on hand already for turn 6, you would play this and hope your opponent overextends right into your impending boardclear... Otherwise you're at your opponent's mercy to give you time to cast it.

Yeah, very intriduing. I can't really rate it off hand.

As for the other cards, Gharug is okay, I guess... if you manage to get him out together with, say, an Ogre Warmaul. Four cards drawn for 3 extra mana, that weighs up his stat deficiency. And control warriors love card draw. Death's Bite is also a possible sacrifice, since you play Death's Bite partly for its own deathrattle in the first place.

Sigrid is quite decent. Shadow Madness sees play at 4 mana, and this card gives you a 4-2 body on top of it, while the mage can actively influence what targets are eligible. Also compare Cabal Shadowpriest, which also sees active play at 6 mana, 4/5, permanent steal with limited ability to influence the eligibility (via Shrinkmeister) but a narrower target field overall. Sigrid's not the stongest legendary in the game, but likely the strongest card among these four.

ASOTIL is... really strange. The effect may be too weird and synergize too little with other Paladin cards to be playable. And compared to Silver Hand Regent, he struggles to keep up. You'd have to push your hero power button at least twice every turn to make him worth having, which makes him an endgame card... that has three health and will be cleared almost instantly. And Silver Hand Regent isn't even played in Constructed, despite heavy synergy with things like Quartermaster and Muster For Battle. Overall, likely the weakest card among these four.

(And honestly, my headcanon card effect for ASOTIL would be "Katia Managan is immune", combined with a Katia Managan card that has a nice effect and/or stats but a Battlecry to deal heavy damage to herself, a bit like a less fortunate Injured Blademaster. =P That makes ASOTIL into Katia's personal protector, much like he is in the story, and requires opponents to get through him first... as well as greatly increasing Katia's own value if you summon her while he is on the board already, as that blocks the Battlecry.)

notabigthreat: @Streetwind: Your text of words is amazing and I agree up to the last paragraph. Katia is the "you" throughout most of the story, so she would not make a good minion.

Tahrey: So we're not taking the role of an independent, all-controlling overlord that isn't directly part of the story?

Ja_Jarsha_Rovandi: @Vidiotdragon: Maybe make ASOTIL a spell card.
"Arrest* one enemy creature.
*arresting a creature removes it from the battlefield and places it in your hand, it can be played for 0 mana and returns to your opponents side"

Adroma: Sorry not sorry

Skoon: Illuminati

Tahrey: What about all those pictures where she has four? Creepy as F, man.

TemporaryFace: @Tahrey: That just means she's capable of changing the number of fingers on her hand, indicating she's some kind of horrible shapeshifting monster.

SameButDifferent: @TemporaryFace Katia isn't tormented by the shapeshifting King, she IS the King. My GOD.

notabigthreat: Don't forget about the yellow voice!

Grape: @notabigthreat: Yellow Voice and Cheese Dragon seem to be the only things NOT tormenting Katia in her dreams.

Armored-Struggle-Wagon: This actually gives me an Idea for the game's desktop menu icon!

notabigthreat: Extra points if it's free software?

Armored-Struggle-Wagon: @notabigthreat: It will be free, no paying! besides, elder scrolls is Bethesda's property, I cannot sell their things without either licensing it, or going through a bunch of court things.

notabigthreat: That "free" doesn't fit that well in the context, but yeah, also valid ways of looking at this.

Nyflex: It never gets sick of the roundy version of Katia's face. Cuteness overwhelming! Sadly I couldn't get the joke thought..

Tahrey: It's a *nux thing, you wouldn't understand.

Like, Linux Is Not UniX.

Aetol: @Tahrey: wasn't it GNU's Not Unix ?

OppoQuinn: Every time I think it's dead, it shows back up. 10/10

Tahrey: So, is this, like, becoming a point and click (or illustrated text) adventure game or soemthing? Or just concept pictures?

...and what's with the plane :D

Aetol: WELL CONGRATULATION ! YOU GOT YOURSELF ROBBED BLIND BY A WITCH ! NOW WHAT'S THE NEXT STEP IN YOUR MASTER PLAN ?

Tahrey: > LOOK_

Geravind: Male and female versions, yes?
Their ears are too big. The rest looks cool.

Armored-Struggle-Wagon: good work, but I kinda would fix the eyes just a little bit, study the shape of Katia's eyes, and you will see that there's more of a ')' curve on the bottom line, and a 'C' for the rest, and of course, her little eyelashes/mascara thingies.

unknown_victor: It's just a male and female khajiit, I didn't draw them with anyone in mind. Thanks for the tips though.

Tahrey: Subtle!

ThatGuyWithAKhajiitWaifu: Typical female RPG armor..

Vidiotdragon: Yes.

Armored-Struggle-Wagon: Excellent work!

Geravind: "Sinner" costume. That face complements the image.

Skoon: noice

Tahrey: What the "cloak of grey tomorrow" ACTUALLY makes you look like (you just THINK it makes you invisible). Everyone is just either distracted, or chooses to look away in disgust :D

Kewot_Rokar: Rather revealing, but cute!

Tahrey: Just pretend that the quadrant design on the lower part of the leotard is white, rather than cutout...

Geravind: @Tahrey: Yes, now only full magicka well can... flush their intentions. ...With a proper hero opposed, of course.
"...but without the hero there is no Event."

D_C_N: @Tahrey: with the caliber of people who took those classes when I was there, it's more frightening than you imagine.

Someone got stabbed with a welding torch once... and yet they still get a laser.

Tahrey: Given that the Fun Thing To Do when I was having those kinds of classes was plugging LEDs into progressively higher voltage power supplies until they literally exploded (...including in some cases the AC mains - in the days before MCD breakers were common, so it didn't blow out anything on the supply side), or roughhousing around running belt sanders, bandsaws and drill-presses (or, in the case of my brother's class, turning on the bunsen burner gas taps and setting them - and everything on the desk within reach of the flame - alight), I'm not particularly surprised. Quite astonishing they allowed us within arm's length of

Tahrey: ...uh...

...arm's length of the PCB etching tanks, really, given what I now know them to have contained.

Tahrey: 5th and final spacing bump

D_C_N: What?

Tahrey: I was shoving that infernal argument down the list because I couldn't be bothered trying to explain to UziMan why his proposal to turn the usual censorship standards on their head wasn't going to wash no matter how bizarre the protests got, and I didn't want to leave it there to bother everyone else any longer either.

Seemed a better idea to bump some actual nice posts up to the top of the Dramatic Descriptions list instead.

Kazerad: @Tahrey: don't spam! That's actually spam's original meaning and function.

D_C_N: It migt be spam, but now at least my glorious metal sign is on top again ;)

Tahrey: I thought it was low quality meat full of filler and not much flavour, that quickly gets repetitive...

But, OK, I'll do my best to refrain.

It *was* in the interest of avoiding further potentially acrimonious blather that was getting us nowhere though. Wanted to bring the attention back to the actual art...