DAEDRIC FUN TIP:
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Tahrey: OK, that's.... strange. Not necessarily bad, but strange.

What's going on with her neck btw?

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Tahrey: ...talented

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Tahrey: so....

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Tahrey: *continues stroking face*

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Tahrey: shh, don't spoil it. i'm happy assuming it's a natural talent.
*strokes face absent-mindedly*
...so talented

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Tahrey: Maybe that's actually the thing. The frequency of each update is determined by t+1=t^lambda(t) or however that equation used to go.

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Tahrey: I think it's gone wrong, the flames are just going round and round her instead of flying forwards! ;)

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Tahrey: OH GOD WHY

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Tahrey: doo du doo du du doo duh duh dum de dum...

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Tahrey: Aw, there doesn't seem to be a pure "licky quill" image on the booru. I wonder where it could be?

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Tahrey: Also, that official PNG version, wow. Actual proper spiny tongue ... and saliva drips o_O

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Tahrey: Like, either Quill licking the other side of Sigrid's face, or Katia licking the other side of the rock.

Why, what else did you think I meant?!

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Tahrey: Also it only really looks like construction lines to me, no other fleshing-out...

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Tahrey: Well yeah, but still.

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Tahrey: HOW U DO DIS?!

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Tahrey: Fur's come out nicely too

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Tahrey: OH GOD WHERE ARE HER PUPILS

...oh right, just took off the invisibility hood.

And, well, 3000x3000 is hard to deal with on a normal size monitor, but it's not any much bigger than a typical digital photo these days, and means you can print it smoothly if you should so wish :)

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Tahrey:

Though actually it's better than anything I'd come up with, so good job.

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Tahrey: Cool ... I recognise some of these styles but I think we need a full guide written at some point ^_^

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Tahrey: Oh, and... congrats, Kati, you get the Shoot It Like Boromir award.
https://youtu.be/Wnitkeg_bEo?t=2m5s

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Tahrey: heh... Metal Gear Prequel.
and... "The Boat" :D

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Tahrey: 15 internet points to the first person to combine the two exploitables btw

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Tahrey: I'm thinking we can make a tiny edit and say that it's a different amulet ... didn't Sigrid have some kind of necklace anyway? Or maybe there was another one in her stash that Katia happened across...

Also, you people are weeeeeiiiiirrrrd :D ... fun idea though. If you're going to get your revenge, you may as well freak your victim the hell out so they have second thoughts about attempting any countervengeance.

They do look at least 51% female from where I'm sitting, there's generally some subtle clues. Even if not, the paintage is very nice.

Grape: Sigrid didn't let Katia have any ice-cream. The ballgag stops her crying for help or casting any spoken spells. The amulet presumably was meant to be a way to block the mentally cast ones, and one supposes she's also bound wrist-and-ankle to a chair to prevent use of any items (other than telekinetically anyway). The bowl may prove to be silver with inset gems, so that stops use of TK. And Siggy left Katia literally naked and rather uncomfortable out in the rain, so she now gets to be stripped to her (painted?) underwear - as far as the actual TES engine lets you go - and made to feel very uncomfortable as an anthropomorphic cat licks blackcurrant ice-cream off her face. There's probably a reference to Nah there as well. Could even be that Katia was inspired by her and is maybe trying to make Sigrid suspect that she's actually a vampire...

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Tahrey: Wow ... you did this with a ballpoint?!

EXTRAPOLATE

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Tahrey: Cute ... but I'm getting the anime mouthnose again :D

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Tahrey: (Posting that... "Katiafication"? Was itself inspired by someone else IIRC ... how deep does the rabbit hole go?)

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Tahrey: Also is it wrong that I now want to see the two of them doing the robot in full animation thanks to your efforts

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Tahrey: O Lawd XD
pahahahahaha

I can take no credit other than for changing SomethingAwful's classic ... uh ... "lyrics" (for want of a better word)

ALL YOUR BASE ARE BELONG TO US

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Tahrey: MY WORK HERE IS DONE

Team Tahrey's blasting off agaaaaaaaiiiiinnn

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Tahrey: THESE ONES ARE THE KVATCH KHAJIITS
THESE ONES ARE HERE TO PROTECT THAT ONE
THESE ONES ARE HERE TO PROTECT THAT ONE FROM THE TERRIBLE SECRET OF KVATCH MAGES GUILD

BOK. CHOI. HNNG.

THIS ONE IS THE PUSHERAJIIRA
THIS ONE PUSHES AROUND THE ATRONACHS

THIS ONE IS THE STHOVERNGIR
THIS ONE SHOVES HOT DOGS OF QUESTIONABLE COMPOSITION DOWN THEIR THROATS

THIS ONE IS THE PUSHERAJIRRA
THIS ONE IS HERE TO PROTECT THAT ONE
PUSHING WILL PROTECT THAT ONE
THAT ONE MUST GO OFF THE CLIFF

THIS ONE IS THE STHOVENGIR
SHOVING WILL PROTECT THE ATRONACH
THIS ONE WILL SHOVE THE ATRONACH
OUTSIDE INTO THE SNOW

THESE ONES ARE THE KVATCH KHAJIITS
THESE ONES ARE HERE TO PROTECT THAT ONE
THESE ONES ARE HERE TO PROTECT THAT ONE FROM THE TERRIBLE SECRET OF KVATCH MAGES GUILD

BOK. CHOI. HNNNG.

THESE ONES ARE THE KVATCH KHAJIITS
DOES THAT ONE KNOW OF A CLIFF NEARBY

THESE ONES ARE THE KVATCH KHAJIITS
ATRONACH IS PROTECTED
ATRONACH HAS GONE OFF THE CLIFF

ATRONACH IS PROTECTED FROM THE TERRIBLE SECRET OF KVATCH MAGES GUILD

THESE ONES ARE THE KVATCH KHAJIITS
OUR MISSION IS COMPLETE

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=O_CoY0sBb1M

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Tahrey: IDK, I'm not convinced it isn't a fat suit. Head and neck are rather less well-insulated ;)

But, whatever. Lovechocs. Yay :)

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Tahrey: IF ONLY I COULD BE SO GROSSLY COMPACT-FLUORESCENT

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Tahrey: The line edges are weirdly scratchy, but that's probably something to do with the hardware / software. Certainly seems to have come out quite nicely otherwise.

The joy of digital is that you can erase and change things and no-one need ever know. Especially if you make each major feature into its own layer that you can move around, resize, rotate etc relative to eveything else...

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Tahrey: Dude... the green ones! There's little lizards with lamps on their tails! The other one is just generic aladdin oil lamps, pfooey.

;)

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Tahrey: NO

DO NOT ENABLE THIS WEIRDNESS

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Tahrey: My brain just ends up interpreting it as an anime :D mouth without a nose and things get weird

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Tahrey: oh, and bear in mind that it's not just a deletion of one of the terms, the deprecated one is still recognised, it just aliased to the maintained search term. type either one, get the same set of results.

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Tahrey: It's a joking reference to it being a slightly altered bootleg, I think. Really, "edit" should be a credited one, and "knock-off" an uncredited one, but using the latter for both is more amusingly (collectively) self-deprecating. Someone else has done most of the work...

Similar to how some images are "gluten-free"...

JJR: So, she still gets a little bit suffocated ... like, 50% of the time? Hopefully hyperventilating through the other 50% is enough to stay alive...

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Tahrey: It's pretty neat, it's just that I had to copy the URL into a new tab and zoom it to understand what was going on ;)

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Tahrey: also I think you mean "sufficient" cakes.

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Tahrey: ...high five? Um... ok ... *smack*

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Tahrey: lol thanks :D

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Tahrey: In any case - next time, if you don't want it to look like a sketch, with proportion issues that can't be easily fixed, there has to be a bit more "setup" work before committing the ink, or even the final pencils, as Olaffson says.

There are plenty of existing texts both online and in print that explain it far better than I easily could in a reasonable time and amount of text / inline images here. Go pick up or google for some basic work on how to draw 'toons and look at the early stages of composition. All the "ball for a head", "cross to lay out facial features" etc kind of stuff.

Another well worn tip is to try copying things upside down, especially where figures and faces are involved. You have to learn to see scenes as collections of shapes rather than the fully formed and mentally annotated construction that your conscious mind perceives once it's been through all the normal background processing and filtering done by the rest of your brain that basically tells you when you look at something... "oh, it's a yellow cartoon cat-person in some kind of droopy green robe with brown trim" ... then after a while "hey, it's Katia again, in her wizard outfit... why's she look so sad?" (or IRL ... "oh it's some guy", then "hey it's Bob, he seems out of breath..."), rather than noting all the actual features and how they fit together, which if it happened all the time would send you absolutely crazy. Unfortunately said filter also really interferes with your ability to draw things with any skill as it gets in the way of your hand-eye coordination somewhat, especially when you're halfway through, the uncanny valley kicks in, and you end up unconsciously trying to fix all kinds of problems that don't exist whilst creating others that aren't apparent until you've finished and it all looks wonky.

tl;dr learning and practice ;)

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Tahrey: It's not brilliant, no, but it's a good start, and like I said the most glaring slips are rescuable. And it has fairly obviously been done freehand - or sketched, if you prefer, just sketched once with a pencil and then inked with only minor changes - which for someone who isn't an accomplished artist who's drawn the same thing many many times over adds a whole extra level of difficulty. It's possible to praise the effort that went into something even if the skill and experience isn't quite there yet to make a good end product. At least they're trying, which a hell of a lot of people don't.

What we were attempting is "constructive" criticism. It's easy to just come out and call something shit, but it's not really going to stop being shit unless the artist learns what not to do, and what else to do instead, and we may as well point that out in the critiques instead of just slating them.

Nobody starts out good, unless they're an acclaimed child prodigy or savant. Basically anyone you see making impressive artworks these days started at this level and had to work their way up (I can give some named examples if anyone cares...). Who's to say katiaaitak won't also follow that well worn path with suitable pointers and a bit of encouragement to not give up even when they have a day where nothing comes out looking right?

And, in any case, they've only been copying some of the simplest panels (a wise start). There's only so much you can get wrong with them. The original level of detail wasn't that much more than this (the resolution didn't allow it) and they were pretty much specifically drawn in a simplistic and slightly off-model way for emphasis of expression. Cartoons, yeah? Happens.

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Tahrey: I get the feeling that "monochrome" (which is a valid description of anything that only uses one colour) may alias to it...

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Tahrey: Good to see her looking so... healthy... anyway :)

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Tahrey: What is this? A preview image for ants? :)

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Tahrey: But what did they wrap the bottle with? An entire sheet of blu-tac? Some kind of fabric adhesive? Or just plain cloth and the Ferreros have a dab of glue (or small piece of "hook" velcro) on the bottom?

Pretty cool though, might try that for a birthday that's coming up...

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Tahrey: They make everything better.

Especially if you imagine her mouth is actually a chin line, and the bridge of her nose is the whole nose.

...help me

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Tahrey: Maybe she just has very long thighs, and has pulled a pair of far-too-long drainpipe trousers up as high as possible?
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