SixBelow: I tried to make it look like she has her head angled down a little bit, so I left her mouth out on purpose to try to help achieve that effect. With the way I was envisioning it, the mouth would be somewhat hidden and I felt having it in would have cluttered the drawing too much.

SixBelow: After experimenting a little bit, I have come to the conclusion that without surgery I cannot add her mouth in a visually appealing way.

TemporaryFace: Looks fine to me.

TemporaryFace: @TemporaryFace: Except for the part where we can see her. Rookie mistake. For shame.

SixBelow: @TemporaryFace: Darn! I was hoping it would at least come across as mediocre.

SixBelow: I'm still in the early stages of developing my style and skills, fluctuations in such are bound to occur. If anybody has any constructive criticism to provide that would be greatly appreciated. Rip it to shreds!

MetalC0Mmander: @TemporaryFace: She's in the prossess of dissapearing.

Hatman: i really like it, but Mediocre_Scrublord actually has a point, a khajiit's mouth like that of a cat start just below the nose (like so :3) i wouldn't have noticed noticed at first, i suggest using a reference for different perspective, and there are plenty of cats on the internet but over all i enjoyed it

CaptainLackwit: Oh wow, this is cool. Mouth things aside because it looks to me like a stylistic choice- this is REALLY cool.

Vaguely reminiscent to a Dragon Age style Tarot card... Say, OP, could you give that a go, maybe?

Toryu-Mau: Are those vengence I see in those eyes? Yes, yes it is.

Mediocre_Scrublord: Woah Nelly

CaptainLackwit: The fanart potential for this outfit is fantastic.

bazelini: Very beautiful and high-quality art. I am impressed

CaptainLackwit: You know, while flipping back to this I misread the first tag as "Cloak_of_Gripes"

AMKitsune: You know, this picture just emphasises the fact that this is one of the most beautiful 'sneaking outfits' around. That's not saying much as most stealth suits are just black. Even so, as bazelini said, this is beautiful in it's own right.

Skoon: This is plain adorable.

Toryu-Mau: The lightings! How does one do this? (Stares intently in infinite envy.)

Man_Of_Mer: Didn't know cake exist in the realm of Oblivion.

Maroc: Best spell

Geravind: "Your conjuration skill increased."

Gren: Conjuration rocks?

Bob: @Man_Of_Mer:

Compliments of sheogorath's chefs. Bliss is best sector.

Toryu-Mau: For the low cost of two souls, you too can haz Cake! Totally worth it, hands down best deal.

tronn: "Katia stuck in a tree"

POMA: Oh the collision bugs. "Katia stuck in the textures"

Bob: @POMA:

>Press Console
>"tcl"
>never turn it off :D

Gren: I think Gharug threw her just like he did with the sword stuck in the wall in Quill's room.

Xanthu_the_Crimson_Wizard: clearly your teleportation leaves much to be desired...are you okay?

also because i have to...
Katia has wood

Toryu-Mau: Feline shennanigans ho!

Skoon: I want a mod that replaces Frisk's sprite with little Katia.

Armored-Struggle-Wagon: @Skoon: I can provide that.

ThatGuyWithAKhajiitWaifu: :sosad;

Skoon: @Armored-Struggle-Wagon: That'd be an amazing sprite swap! :D

OppoQuinn: This is awesome.

Toryu-Mau: Goat mom can make even sadcat feel better for sure.

Guardian: I need that mod

ThatGuyWithAKhajiitWaifu: There we go it is flipped now, really nice work you've done here!

Guardian: Finally fixed the image thanks for the compliment although I probably won't do things this big a project until I get more experienced

ThatGuyWithAKhajiitWaifu: @Guardian: Perhaps you should get a drawing tablet?

Guardian: I might which do you recommend also what programs should I get? I'm a little new to drawing with tablets and have only used them once or twice at school.

ThatGuyWithAKhajiitWaifu: @Guardian: I use SAI, but you could also try Graphics Gale

AMKitsune: @Guardian: Paint tool SAI (That's it's full name) is a favourite of many 'drawing' focused artists. It has built in brush brush stroke smoothing capabilities which can help make your lines and curves look smoother with less judder and roughness. It also has special 'lineart layers' on which you can draw your lines and then click and drag the points of the lines around as you see fit afterwards. Very handy.

The biggest downside to SAI is that while it does what it does very well, it lacks quite a lot of the features found in 'more comprehensive' image editors like photoshop. You may not need or want these features right now, but it's something to bare in mind.

Moving onto photoshop, if you can get hold of it, that's one of those 'once you have it, you'll technically be able to do pretty much anything with it' kinds of programs. While it has got drawing and painting features and tools built in, it's primarily a photo editor, so as far as layering brush strokes and creating lineart goes, many people prefer SAI. Then again, some people swear by photoshop and use practically nothing else. It's one of those personal preference and 'what you're used to' kinds of thing.

Given how much Photoshop costs (and if you can't get hold of a cheap copy), I understand that the Gnu Image Manipulation Program (or GIMP for short) is essentially an open source (FREE!) version of photoshop with most of the the same tools and features.

Generally speaking, those are the sorts of programs that most digital artists seem to gravitate towards as they can offer a wide variety of oppertunity for creating art of all kinds of different styles.

Programs like graphics gale are, to my understanding at least, limited more to sprite based art. I've asked Kazerad himself about his experience with it and he said that "It's optomized for sprite animation. For PRequel, it's honestly probably not the bestchoice", so while you can make larger pictures with it, you might find it easier in the long run to use something else.

Quite honestly, there is no simple 'best program' to use. Try to get hold of as many different ones as you want and try them all. Some people stick with one program while others use multiple programs for different purposes. I've seen recordings of drawings by PlagueOfGripes where he draws the lineart in SAI and then moves over to photoshop to finish the colours.

Experiment. You'll find something that works for ya.

Also, nice scene here

Enheldor: @AMKitsune: I mean, you CAN get a copy of Photoshop for the cheapest price, free.

Also, I am not good at drawing, so take this next part however you wish. Based on what has been said before me, it seems like the best option would be to use SAI for lineart, then Photoshop for everything else, much like PlagueOfGripes. However, use whatever you feel most comfortable with or try to learn both and use each for what they are best at. Your call.

Skoon: Funny thing about the scale of the game Oblivion is that by lore standards you wouldn't be able to see the imperial city from the outer shore of the Rumare.

Yet in game you can see every northern city from around one spot.

PermanentFace: @Skoon: False. You can, in fact, see the City from the shore of Lake Rumare: "From the shore it is hard to tell what is city and what is Palace, for it all rises from the islands of the lake towards the sky in a stretch of gold." -PGE1

Skoon: @PermanentFace: I can't find it but I recall reading in deep lore that the bridge connecting the island to the mainland was so long that there were small villages on it.

That and by the scale of Tamriel in Arena and Daggerfall a map of Cyrodiil shows lake Rumare as being larger than the great lakes.

The human eye would never be able to see across that.

Gren: Aww, just when I thought there couldn't exist anything more adorable.

MetalC0Mmander: About the name Festive Holiday Disaster. I think that it should only be used for the whole essemble instead of just the cloak or the rest of the clothes. If it's too complicated then nvm I'll just start tagging every picture with this suit approprietly.

TemporaryFace: "Festive_Holiday_Disaster" is for the clothes. "Cloak_of_Gray_Tomorrow" is for the cloak itself. What do you mean by the whole ensemble?

MetalC0Mmander: Hell no! Festive holiday disaster for clothes that are one color what is wrong with you? And what I mean by the whole esemble/set it the cloak and the clothes.

Kazerad: @TemporaryFace: I've been using Katia's_Thief_Tunic for the clothes, Festive_Holiday_Disaster for the final cloak, and Cloak_of_Gray_Tomorrow for the earlier cloak submissions.

TemporaryFace: @Kazerad: As you command, my liege.

MetalC0Mmander: That sounds good.

Toryu-Mau: Who knew a haunting could be so... gosh darn adorable?

MetalC0Mmander: It would be nice if you tagged it as whatever this is a crossover with. Also if you explained why she is so muscular.

Kazerad: It's from Cave Story!

She's muscular because Cave Story is done in pixel art, so to be visually readable the characters need to carry guns the size of their torso.

TodoDeygulash: She's muscular because I like drawing muscles, even if it makes no sense for Katia.

CaptainLackwit: @TodoDeygulash: S'aight. Chicks with muscles rock anyway.

MetalC0Mmander: @Kazerad: Ah yeah I forgot Curly was wearing a red shirt. I thought it was white or pink for some reaon.

Man_Of_Mer: http://m.imgur.com/r/MuscleGirls/eWkcr

Is this what you want?

CaptainLackwit: @Man_Of_Mer: Tad overboard but I'll take that.

Toryu-Mau: Northern star AKA Peashooter would definitely fit her thematically.

Man_Of_Mer: What is this from exactly?

bazelini: Loki?

Sasquatch_boote: I thoroughly enjoy this. Way to go.

Geravind: JJR, good emotion implication!

Toryu-Mau: When rock bottom is above your own head, there lies a whole new world of desparation. LIKE A RAINBOW.

Gren: The cat is a spy!

Man_Of_Mer: Ooohhh. Sneaky sneaky.

Quintus: Beware the dawn of the Metal Age

MetalC0Mmander: @Quintus: YES! Submit or be destroyed by my army!

Toryu-Mau: Swift, like a Festive holliday disaster in the night!